Comments on: Visual Studio 2008 SP1 and .NET 3.5 SP1 released http://www.mikewilson.cc/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/ Busy Dad, Software Developer & Business Owner Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:51:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Client-only Framework subset: Thank you Microsoft! http://www.mikewilson.cc/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-587 Client-only Framework subset: Thank you Microsoft! Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:47:40 +0000 http://blog.evolvedsoftwarestudios.com/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/#comment-587 [...] I posted about the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and talked about the big 231 MB download that was seriously putting me off developing for the .NET [...] [...] I posted about the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and talked about the big 231 MB download that was seriously putting me off developing for the .NET [...]

]]> By: Client-only Framework subset: Thank you Microsoft! | The Evolved ISV http://www.mikewilson.cc/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-283 Client-only Framework subset: Thank you Microsoft! | The Evolved ISV Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:57:36 +0000 http://blog.evolvedsoftwarestudios.com/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/#comment-283 [...] I posted about the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and talked about the big 231 MB download that was seriously putting me off developing for the .NET [...] [...] I posted about the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and talked about the big 231 MB download that was seriously putting me off developing for the .NET [...]

]]> By: mike http://www.mikewilson.cc/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-281 mike Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:47:17 +0000 http://blog.evolvedsoftwarestudios.com/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/#comment-281 Hi Scott, Have you heard of MIchael Lehman (spelling?), a technical evangelist from Microsoft to Micro-ISV's? I, along with some other .NET developers posed him "the big question" a couple of years ago. Why doesn't Microsoft push the framework out to end users via automatic update? I believe he put effort into finding an answer but was either unsuccessful or the answer wouldn't tie in with his message. As far as I am aware (and I follow this closely) there was no response on why the .NET framework had such a low take-up rate amongst end-users desktop machines. I suspect political reasons may be halting the framework updates and this is yet more evidence that Microsoft developers are synonymous with "Enterprise platform" developers; rather than innovative "micro" style ISV or open source developers. Michael Lehman (sp?). also ran a hugely brilliant podcast with Bob Walsh, "The Micro ISV Show" on Channel 9. It hasn't been updated in a long while but the show archives are still there and the interviews with software developers on their businesses are excellent and thought provoking. Hi Scott,

Have you heard of MIchael Lehman (spelling?), a technical evangelist from Microsoft to Micro-ISV’s?

I, along with some other .NET developers posed him “the big question” a couple of years ago. Why doesn’t Microsoft push the framework out to end users via automatic update?

I believe he put effort into finding an answer but was either unsuccessful or the answer wouldn’t tie in with his message. As far as I am aware (and I follow this closely) there was no response on why the .NET framework had such a low take-up rate amongst end-users desktop machines. I suspect political reasons may be halting the framework updates and this is yet more evidence that Microsoft developers are synonymous with “Enterprise platform” developers; rather than innovative “micro” style ISV or open source developers.

Michael Lehman (sp?). also ran a hugely brilliant podcast with Bob Walsh, “The Micro ISV Show” on Channel 9. It hasn’t been updated in a long while but the show archives are still there and the interviews with software developers on their businesses are excellent and thought provoking.

]]> By: Scott Kane http://www.mikewilson.cc/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-282 Scott Kane Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:18:56 +0000 http://blog.evolvedsoftwarestudios.com/2008/08/12/visual-studio-2008-sp1-and-net-35-sp1-released/#comment-282 G'day Mike, As you know I still develop for Win32 being a confirmed Delphi nut. But having said that I'm very interested in what's happening with .net (especially seeing the architect was also the architect of Delphi, C# is very much like Object Pascal). I'm also looking serioulsy at Oxygene (formerly Chrome) which is a .Net Object Pascal that uses the MS VisualStudio as the IDE. It's a little immature right now, IMHO, but it's pretty easy to port most of my code over to it (though not my VCL collection which is a huge PITA for me). Given the uncertainty of the CodeGear sale to Embarcado it's likely such a move will become invevitabe (sad to say as I'm not happy with what I'm seeing over there at the moment *at all*). So any news on .Net and it's installed base is always welcome. G’day Mike,

As you know I still develop for Win32 being a confirmed Delphi nut. But having said that I’m very interested in what’s happening with .net (especially seeing the architect was also the architect of Delphi, C# is very much like Object Pascal). I’m also looking serioulsy at Oxygene (formerly Chrome) which is a .Net Object Pascal that uses the MS VisualStudio as the IDE. It’s a little immature right now, IMHO, but it’s pretty easy to port most of my code over to it (though not my VCL collection which is a huge PITA for me). Given the uncertainty of the CodeGear sale to Embarcado it’s likely such a move will become invevitabe (sad to say as I’m not happy with what I’m seeing over there at the moment *at all*). So any news on .Net and it’s installed base is always welcome.

]]>